Despite cultural drifts and waves of settlement in Europe over millenia, the evidence for indigenous origin of most Europeans as people who lived on the continent for the past 12 thousand years seems to be growing. Many waves of settlement like Yamnaya added to the mix, but on the whole it was the cultures and customs that travelled. What we see today is a whole different beast, and no wonder its causing so much distress.
Mmm in short I see the evidence as still a mix. I think it can get a bit murky when we are talking about the prevalence of Eastern Hunter Gatherers in both parts of preexisting Europe as well as a major component of the Yamnaya culture. However ancient dna sample sizes and sampling is improving each year. My personal composition from testing through a few companies is roughly.
35% 37% or so Early European Farmer ‘from Anatolia’
40% to 43% Yamnaya ‘Steppe’
The rest Western Hunting Gather.
However there are different modals, two way, three way, some don’t even include steppe, but rather Neolithic Farmers vs Hunter Gathers.
Incidentally, Corded Ware was the major vector for Europe as well as the Sintashta and on into Central Asia, Iranic tribes and North India. ‘The Aryans’. Beyond material and linguistic evidence, it’s the mix of Yamnaya and Globular Amphora ‘a Neolithic European group’ dna that makes up the Corded Ware culture and shows the evidence of this expansion east, and blending with preexisting cultures.
Early straight Yamnaya seems to be vector for Greece down through the Balkans as well as Armania.
Yamnaya its self is a mix of Eastern Hunter Gatherer and Caucus Hunter Gathers as well as a few another North Siberian groups. But obviously time lines and over laps exist and that’s why proper modeling is very important.
I would point out that various parts of the continent will have stronger or weaker signatures for various population admixtures, which reflects somewhat the range of travel and penetration by invaders, even though culture and language have seemingly travelled further. I am keen to avoid mapping culture onto genetics and vice-versa, as one constantly changes even across a span of one generation, whereas blood relations remain fixed once a person is born. It does help to view both together however, as it informs these past movements and allows us to view them in greater detail.
good writing! thank you!!! they were great warriors. used for mercenaries, hard to beat. warrior culture extreme. no sex until 21, because they wanted all that testosterone going into building the unstoppable warrior body until then. they really abided by this cultural taboo. honor was very important- today we have none. everything good jewed down to near extinction. black forest was large, and old growth. caesar wrote of meeting 2 German warriors on the edge, and they told him how big it was- hard to cross it so big. I did research into why the persecution of Jews was so extreme in the germanies in the middle ages. during the plague years. its funny how it is a known fact that long before ww2, Jews were persecuted most harshly in the germanies. sometimes, generally, a special house would be built of big logs, like 2 stories, big, and every Jew in the region would be put inside and then they'd burn it down. I studied this as to WHY? the conclusion I came to was that they had a very serious meat diet and a short childhood- the kids were treated sternly. I personally concluded these were factors but of course lord only knows. I did look into ancient history of this region at length. very interesting subject.
“and most of them were lead by the eldest family members” —should be “were led”
"Who's" should be "whose"...
Despite cultural drifts and waves of settlement in Europe over millenia, the evidence for indigenous origin of most Europeans as people who lived on the continent for the past 12 thousand years seems to be growing. Many waves of settlement like Yamnaya added to the mix, but on the whole it was the cultures and customs that travelled. What we see today is a whole different beast, and no wonder its causing so much distress.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Gf8MgHVkrYqEvJ7ownqsH6-1200-80.jpg.webp
The only "indigenous" sentient being on the planet is the little fellow pictured in the link above. Our forefather from 10s of millions of years ago.
The word "indigenous" - like so many other words in the English language - has become hopelessly perverted by Identity.
Mmm in short I see the evidence as still a mix. I think it can get a bit murky when we are talking about the prevalence of Eastern Hunter Gatherers in both parts of preexisting Europe as well as a major component of the Yamnaya culture. However ancient dna sample sizes and sampling is improving each year. My personal composition from testing through a few companies is roughly.
35% 37% or so Early European Farmer ‘from Anatolia’
40% to 43% Yamnaya ‘Steppe’
The rest Western Hunting Gather.
However there are different modals, two way, three way, some don’t even include steppe, but rather Neolithic Farmers vs Hunter Gathers.
Incidentally, Corded Ware was the major vector for Europe as well as the Sintashta and on into Central Asia, Iranic tribes and North India. ‘The Aryans’. Beyond material and linguistic evidence, it’s the mix of Yamnaya and Globular Amphora ‘a Neolithic European group’ dna that makes up the Corded Ware culture and shows the evidence of this expansion east, and blending with preexisting cultures.
Early straight Yamnaya seems to be vector for Greece down through the Balkans as well as Armania.
Yamnaya its self is a mix of Eastern Hunter Gatherer and Caucus Hunter Gathers as well as a few another North Siberian groups. But obviously time lines and over laps exist and that’s why proper modeling is very important.
I would point out that various parts of the continent will have stronger or weaker signatures for various population admixtures, which reflects somewhat the range of travel and penetration by invaders, even though culture and language have seemingly travelled further. I am keen to avoid mapping culture onto genetics and vice-versa, as one constantly changes even across a span of one generation, whereas blood relations remain fixed once a person is born. It does help to view both together however, as it informs these past movements and allows us to view them in greater detail.
good writing! thank you!!! they were great warriors. used for mercenaries, hard to beat. warrior culture extreme. no sex until 21, because they wanted all that testosterone going into building the unstoppable warrior body until then. they really abided by this cultural taboo. honor was very important- today we have none. everything good jewed down to near extinction. black forest was large, and old growth. caesar wrote of meeting 2 German warriors on the edge, and they told him how big it was- hard to cross it so big. I did research into why the persecution of Jews was so extreme in the germanies in the middle ages. during the plague years. its funny how it is a known fact that long before ww2, Jews were persecuted most harshly in the germanies. sometimes, generally, a special house would be built of big logs, like 2 stories, big, and every Jew in the region would be put inside and then they'd burn it down. I studied this as to WHY? the conclusion I came to was that they had a very serious meat diet and a short childhood- the kids were treated sternly. I personally concluded these were factors but of course lord only knows. I did look into ancient history of this region at length. very interesting subject.